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post #1 of 19 Old 01-21-2014, 05:16 PM Thread Starter
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Trouble Starting Engine

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This is something that happens at least 1-3 times a week. Keep in mind I use my FZ-09 everyday, it is my only transportation.

Scenario - In the morning when I start my bike for work, it will fire right up. (I'm in southern California so at 6am it is about 50 degrees.)

I park my bike in a lot uncovered.

I take my lunch at 12noon,

By this time it is 70-80 degrees outside. I put my key in the ignition, turn to the on position, wait about 5 seconds, then push the start button down. The bike responds with not turning over. I then have to turn the bike off then back on about 2-5 times or so, even having to twist the throttle a little, then the bike will suddenly fire right up.

I'm mentioning the temperatures because I noticed when it is cold outside my bike has no issue starting up, BUT when it is hot outside I get this problem.

It reminds me of when I had a carbureted bike and my carburetors needed to be re synced. I know that my FZ-09 is fuel injected. It makes me un easy to have a 2014 Yamaha that wont start on the first try? Has anyone else had these types of issues?

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George L.
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I say you log your starts for a few days and when you have a bad ignition cycle.or two bring it back to the dealer. This sounds like an isolated incident. Even if it isn't it should be acovered by warranty. I'll be watching this thread to see if this is the start of a larger problem. Good luck!

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This has happened to me, but not often. Also, I don't ride my bike everyday. When I do ride to work, I make sure it sits in the shade all day and I rarely have this happen. However this did happen to me and 5 others at the same time after a rest from riding up Angeles crest. Not sure what causes it, but initial theory is temperature change. Like Kevin said, keep a log just in case.
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Thank-you both, I really appreciate it! I will start a log and post any updates on the forum. @tunnelvision748 & @twistedthrottle
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Thank-you both, I really appreciate it! I will start a log and post any updates on the forum. @tunnelvision748 & @twistedthrottle
Please do it will be greatly appreciated, any more info helps!
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Some of the FJR members in Cali had the same problem with starting. Bike cranked normally but didn't start after being parked in the sun. Turned out to be related to the vapor recovery system only on Cali bikes. Hope this helps. Jeff
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Some of the FJR members in Cali had the same problem with starting. Bike cranked normally but didn't start after being parked in the sun. Turned out to be related to the vapor recovery system only on Cali bikes. Hope this helps. Jeff
I have the same exact issue. Has anyone came up with a solution? When it's parked in the sun, it won't fire up until I give it gas at the same time which is horrible for the engine.


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Hello,

This is something that happens at least 1-3 times a week. Keep in mind I use my FZ-09 everyday, it is my only transportation.

Scenario - In the morning when I start my bike for work, it will fire right up. (I'm in southern California so at 6am it is about 50 degrees.)

I park my bike in a lot uncovered.

I take my lunch at 12noon,

By this time it is 70-80 degrees outside. I put my key in the ignition, turn to the on position, wait about 5 seconds, then push the start button down. The bike responds with not turning over. I then have to turn the bike off then back on about 2-5 times or so, even having to twist the throttle a little, then the bike will suddenly fire right up.

I'm mentioning the temperatures because I noticed when it is cold outside my bike has no issue starting up, BUT when it is hot outside I get this problem.

It reminds me of when I had a carbureted bike and my carburetors needed to be re synced. I know that my FZ-09 is fuel injected. It makes me un easy to have a 2014 Yamaha that wont start on the first try? Has anyone else had these types of issues?

Thanks,

George L.
I'll be watching this thread to see if this is the start of a larger problem. Good Job!!
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It sounds like your EVAP, you have to take off the tank to remove the evap. this same exact thing happens to me, the heat from the direct sunlight causes the gas vapor to expand, reducing fuel pressure to the pump, causing the hard start, hence why it never happens first thing in the morning. the dealer wont help you with this because, by law, they cannot remove a "working" evap canister. I am going to bypass the EVAP and remove the canister as soon as I have some free time on the weekend.

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Do all NA bikes have the EVAP? Or just California models? I have a Ducati 1199 and once this issue started it only got worse, after several fuel map updates which were inteded to 'fix' the issue I removed the canister and re routed the associated pipe work....now it starts like a champ no matter what bike / outside temp is. Just for info, the EVAP canister was full of fuel.
I am on this forum as I am thinking about an FZ-09 for a daily bike, couple of long trips a year and so on. My Panigale never left me stranded due to EVAP, but did delay a lot of rides whilst waiting for it to cool down, 40 minute fuel stops every 90 miles become tedious after a while!
Do you feel this is a huge problem for the 09?
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